Electric Formula Rules (EF1) Proposed Rules

[EdSmith]

Hi Randy,

Yes I will be racing this event. I am kind of waiting until the final rules are approved. There was a considerable difference between the first draft and the current one. Understandably so. To start from scratch is still a bit of an expense. I would hate to get set up only to find minor role changes render some of the equipment not suitable. I would imagine the airframe is set, it is just the power train.

Ed S

[djlyon]

Good thread started by Robbert Van Den Bosch on a German forum. Most of it's in English. He's pushing EF1

Denis

http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showthread.php?t=201951

[EdSmith]

Is this battery rule correct.

The first is as printed on the NMPRA site, the second is as submitted to the AMA for rules approval. The weight is different. If the second is a misprint it should be changed before it becomes the AMA rule. Can you imagine the arguing?

b. Maximum Battery Weight: Motor battery pack shall have a maximum weight of 325 grams including all connectors and wires and shrink tubing. It is recommended that batteries utilize a balancing tap to balance the individual cells as part of the charging process; however, batteries without a balancing connector are permitted and shall have a maximum weight of 315 grams.

2) Maximum Battery Weight: Motor battery pack shall have a maximum weight of 225 grams including all connectors and wires. It is recommended that batteries utilize a balancing tap to balance the individual cells as part of the charging process, however, batteries without a balancing connector are permitted and shall have a maximum weight of 215 grams.

Ed S

[iamtom]

Seems kind of important. 100 Gm. difference. Whats up?
Thanks Ed.
Tom

[kane]

Ed,

Scott McAfee removed his proposal from being voted on this cycle. This was done to clean up small issues like the one you posted from the AMA site. The current rules have a 325g max rule.

Therefore, this will not be a AMA event until it is re-submitted and voted on. Currently, the NMPRA is the only governing body controlling the rules. Once Scott and all feel confident with the rules they will be submitted to the AMA. But for now, with it being controlled by the NMPRA, we have more flexibility stabilize the rules.

Regards,

Dan

[EdSmith]

Hi Dan,

Thanks for that. I guess the AMA has not deleted it from the rules proposals page.

I am not too familier with the rules proposals cycle. Will the cycle timing allow this event be approved for next year?

ED

[kane]

Ed,

Because of the AMA cycle time it cannot happen in 2011. Having said that it still can be sanctioned similar to Sport pylon or "CLUB 40" which is also not an AMA rule book event. The rules that should be used are the most current NMPRA rules. Once we get our feet wet with some contests the rules will solidify and then it can become an AMA event.

Dan

[GaryS]

Personally, I like the idea of it not being an AMA at first anyways. Like Dan kind of said, not being under AMA's rules cycle allows tweaking and improving as the event gets a following. Once everything's pretty much "right", it can then be submitted to become an AMA event.

[RSmith]

I completely agree. I don't think there are any serious gaps or problems with the rules but it's just a good idea to tweak them as we gain experience from having a good season of E-F1 events.

We're having a contest this weekend with 10+ entries. I'll bring up the topic of rules around the camp fire as we have a few cold ones. I'm sure I'll get some input. I'll let you know if there is any good input.


Randy

[N81U]

It's a tough issue and I feel for those setting the rules. You don't want to be vague in the rules but with the speed of Electric technology, the rules will need constant updates to keep up with new technology. Just an idea forget about the weight of the battery just weigh the plane. We will fit in the plane what works for the time. but voltage (cell count) needs enforcement.

Other than that I would look into the R/C Car "ROAR" standards for motor /battery.

Lee